Posted by: Karen Joy | September 29, 2006

More on celiac disease — how we got diagnosed.

I blogged earlier today about my views on celiac disease.

Until fairly recently, it was thought that celiac disease was an extremely rare disease, affecting about 1 in 10,000.  But recent studies have shown that, in the US, somewhere between 1 in 133 to 1 in 250 have celiac disease.  Right now, though, the dx rate is showing 1 in 4000 w/ CD, meaning that it is *severely* under-diagnosed.  (Right now, Italy leads the world in diagnoses, because each child entering Kindergarten is required to be tested.  So, oddly enough, the country known ’round the world for its wheat pasta is becoming the most aware of celiac disease in the world, and makes me think that it would be a pretty celiac-friendly place to travel.)

My many personal thanks to Dr. Alessio Fasano, who came out with a huge study in 2003, showing CD to be much more prevalent than originally thought.  The word is still getting out, more than three years later, but that study led to celiac disease at least being on the radar.  Most doctors have at least heard of it now, and have a general understanding of what it’s about, and about how serious it is.

But… at the time that we were going through our own journey to diagnosis, the study wasn’t yet published, and most doctors had not even heard of celiac disease.

Wesley’s illnesses started at age 5 months, maybe earlier, when he was still 100% breastfed.  (The gluten molecule is transferred into the breastmilk, so babies with extreme sensitivity react even to that.)  He just had tons of diarrhea.  I mean, 6-15 episodes a day.  I brought it up to his Wes’ pediatricians, but they blew me off, saying that breastfed babies’ stools are looser.  Well, duh.  But, Wes was my 3rd baby, and by golly, I should know what poop is supposed to look like, and Wes’ was *not* right.  It stunk to high heaven, and it was always watery. 

I was going to wait until he was 6 months to start any kind of solids, but he started refusing b’milk, and he wouldn’t take formula (though I only tried it a few times — but, in retrospect, formula would not have worked, because he also has sensitivities to soy and until his gut was healed, dairy).  It seemed no matter what I fed him, he still had diarrhea — and the rare times he didn’t, I couldn’t figure out why — probably because he was on a combination of his own diet and b’milk, and things had to line up just right between my diet and his in order for him not to have symptoms.

He was also very sick with virtually everything else.  He got sick with everything that came down the pike.  He got ear infections so bad that his eardrums burst five times in his first year of life.  He ran a fever of 99*-101* non-stop.  His doctors said that “some babies just run hot.”  What???? 

He also almost stopped gaining weight.  He was a full 10 lbs at birth, but he didn’t double his birth weight until he was 10 months, and by 12 months, he was barely 21 lbs.  His doctors said that sometimes big babies “level off” and just because they’re big at birth doesn’t mean they stay big forever. 

I just knew something was not right.  It wasn’t that he was just breastfed.  It wasn’t just that he “ran hot.”  It wasn’t that he was just “leveling off.”  It was something.

Finally, at his 12 month check-up (when he was nearly 13 months), I put my foot down.  I told them they had to find what was going on with Wesley.  That’s when they took a good look at the DIVE going on, on his growth chart, and dx’ed him “failure to thrive” and sent him for all sorts of testing.  He went through three rounds of blood tests, and a stool-collection test, which I did.  YUCK.

After a month of testing for Wesley, (seemed like forever back then) for ALL sorts of diff things, all of the tests came back negative (though he wasn’t tested for CD).  After the last round, and the doctor telling me, over the phone, that if he was still exhibiting symptoms in three months, they’d try again.  That was NOT acceptable. 

I hung up the phone, cried, put all the dc down for a nap, went on WebMD .  I spent a grand total of four minutes on there, with their symptom checker before I found info diarrhea in small children.  Most of the things on the info page I either knew he didn’t have, or had already been tested for.  But then… there was celiac disease.  I was vaguely familiar with it, because a friend of the family has it, too.  I clicked on their link for more info, which at that time, linked me to the nonprofit research site www.csaceliacs.org.  I got very excited, because not only did they describe his diarrhea (gross, but true), but they described the skin condition dermatitis herpetiformis, which Wes, unbeknownst to me, also had!  I even had another appt w/ the dermatologist later that week, b/c there were certain fiercely itchy areas on Wes that were not clearing up with the eczema treatement (Protopic). 

I called my son’s ped, told them I was going to put him on a gluten-free diet, they said, “OK.”  In one sense, that was a GREAT decision, because in five days he had the first solid stool of his life. In five weeks, he gained 3 lbs 1 oz, after gaining 2.5 lbs in 7.5 previous months.  BUT, they should have immediately sent him for either the blood test that checks for CD, or at least sent us immediately to the g.i. doc.

By the time we got to a ped g.i. doc, he was too free of gluten for the tests to show CD conclusively. B/c of the massive turnaround in symptoms (weight gain & others), they dx’ed him “presumed celiac” but can’t say definitively unless we put him back on gluten. Um… no. We CAN’T. He’s so sick on gluten, and such a happy, spunky, healthy boy being g.f.

Actually, the same thing happened w/ me…  I spent a lifetime with “digestive problems” that were so familiar to me I thought they were normal.   It was only after I got married that my husband was like, “Umm… no.  That is not normal.”  He was more concerned with my health than I was.  Before I got pg w/ my first, I went through a complete physical to try to find the root, and ended up humilated by a doctor who accused me of being a hypochondriac.  Then, about 2.5 years later, I went through an exhausting 3 year search to find out, “What is WRONG with me???” with a much nicer doctor.  He had me being tested for near-everything except CD.  Those years turned up a host of various dx’s, but not CD.  So, shortly after my “search” for the key to my own health woes ended is when everything came to a head with Wesley.  As I was educating myself as Wesley’s mother, I had printed out a list of symptoms, and went down it mentally, and was like, “Wait a minute.  I have that, I have that, I have that.” So, I went gluten free on my own.  It had nearly immediate results.  Within three days, I could tell a major difference.  But, at that point, I was highly distrustful of doctors, since they had been SO WRONG about Wesley.  It was very a very startling and eye-opening experience that led me to the conclusion that doctors could not be trusted.  Even though I did have a kind, curious and tenacious personal doctor, I was disillusioned about ”traditional” medicine, tired of the three year search I had just gone through, and scared that he would minimize my concerns and tell me that celiac disease was not “it,” even though I knew it was.  When I finally went to see him, he sent me for a round of blood work, but by that point, I’d been gluten free for about three months, so nothing showed up on the bloodwork.  But, because he was familiar with me and my symptoms, and being gluten-free caused a near-complete cessation of symptoms — even things that had been dx’ed as “chronic,” he called me, as well “presumed celiac disease.”  I would have to go back onto gluten to get an official dx.  Dh and I both say, “NO WAY” to that.

Recently, my OB doc, who is refreshingly anti-establishment, told me to NEVER get tested.  He told me that if being g.f. for that long continued to have positive results, he said, “Then what’s the point?  You don’t want an official diagnosis that will just go on your permanent record.”  He brought up the point that it could, in the future, cause problems with insurance.  He advocated me continuing to do what I have done the last nearly-four years, which is just to eat gluten free, know that I have celiac disease, but not worry about a diagnosis.

A dx would be good, at this point, only in that I would be able to deduct the money spent on g.f. items from our taxable income.  But… in my OB’s viewpoint, it’s not worth it.  And from my viewpoint, there is NO WAY I’m going back on gluten for *any* reason that I can control.  The results of consuming gluten can keep affecting one’s body for up to six months, since gliadin, for unknown reasons, can be stored in the body’s liver for that long.

Well.  That’s it for now.  Time to get off the celiac disease soapbox.  :)

Responses

I do sympathise. One person I work with has the gluten problem and dairy products on top of that. Every time I do the treats-for-the-team thing, I struggle to find her something!

You know, I’ve been having problems for almost a year now, I was constantly nauseous, had stomach pains and it got so bad that I had to eventually eat smaller and smaller meals because as I would be eating I would start getting sick and lose my appetite, sometimes I’d eat one meal a day and that’s all I could eat, I’m also pretty short compared to the rest of my family and I’m really skinny compared tot hem also since they all tend to be not fat but of big structure, well, after a few visits to the ER this year I was diagnosed with diabetes and even after treatment I was still so sick I had to quit taking the oral meds because i couldnt eat enough to make up for the higher insulin production and was getting a lot of lows, I also noticed that the few times I actually did throw up was when I had eaten big ammounts of flour and milk. One day, looking online to see if my symptoms matched up with those of an ulcer I see ont he side of the page a link that said something like “celiac disease, a flour problem?” and i thought to myself, hmm i didnt know celiac disease was a food allergy, so i looked at it, and to my surprise quite a few of the symptoms matched, from the gastrointestinal symptoms to my unexplained short stature, unexplained bone pains and now a sudden onset of peripheral neuropathy that, in my opinion, can’t be from diabetes because I dont think i’ve had it long enough. I decided to try a gluten free diet on my own because i have no insurance to get tested, and to my surprise, in a few days the nauseas are gone, the vomiting is gone too, no stomach pains like i was getting except for a few that i think are from an ulcer or acid reflux and im doing so much better! I just can’t believe that after all the years my mom spent taking me to the hospital because i was such a sick child, they couldnt figure out it was juts a food allergy! makes me mad but im glad i found out.

Hey, Alejandra (much prettier than AJ, IMO. ;-) ) ~ So did this *just* happen, like really recently? That’s a bummer that you have no insurance. I know there is a lab that will test privately, but I think the whole thing is still around $250. If you don’t get a definitive dx right now, then when you *do* have insurance in the future, the only way to get a proper dx is to go back onto gluten.

Not to quibble with you, but celiac disease is *not* a food allergy. It’s more… sinister than that. Food allergies can be really serious (my youngest son is anaphylaxic to peanuts, and we have to carry an EpiPen everywhere). But, celiac disease is a lot more serious than a “normal” allergy. What gets confusing is that in *addition* to celiac sympoms, a person’s body CAN (and usually does) develop antibodies to gliadin (that’s the amino-acid-like particle in gluten that causes the damage)… so someone w/ CD might test positive for an “allergy”. BUT, it’s not actually an allergy. It’s an autoimmune disorder, like lupus or MS are. There’s a trigger (gluten) that sets off a self-destruct response in your small intestine… and also bonds to nerve cell in your brain and acts as an opiate. It’s not just “simply” that your immune system is over-reacting to the presence of gluten — it’s that gluten is signalling to your body to start destroying itself!! Make sense?

Also… about the milk — the enzyme that digests milk sugar lives on the end of the villi in the small intestine. So, when your villi are damaged from CD, you will often have lactose intolerance — damaged villi means depleted lactase. Depleted lactase means you don’t digest milk well. Often, once one’s intestine is healed by being on a g.f. diet, you’ll be able to handle milk products a lot better.

Thanks for sharing your story. Stop by again!

You are right, it is definitely not an allergy, I have probably read every article on celiac online now! So now I realize it’s not just an allergy but something much more complicated, I’ve learned that it can cause so many neuro problems and other complications, but at least I feel good that there’s some hope that if I go on a gluten free diet I will feel so much better. I’m planning on taking a test on Enterolab, it costs $99 so its’ not too much but it is only for gluten sensitivity so we’ll see how it comes out, hopefully I’ll get some answers from there cause I can’t wait to go gluten free again, I know it helped me when I tried it.

thanks for the brilliant articles i aggree that it seems not to be an allergy!

Is there a National Celliac Disease organization? If so, they should promote education of Doctors to check for CD before doing a lot of other testing. I read my symptoms in the local “DR” column. Went GF and within 3 days was “Cured” yeah yippee. that was 25 years ago. If you know of any such organization, please E me at mer71532@aol.com SUBJECT:Celliac Disease

Lucky me.
M

I’m very happy to have found your story. Your story is similar to mine, only I’m not affected and it took me 3 1/2 years to have my 2nd child dx’d. He had symptoms from day 1 of his little life and he was exclusively breast fed until age 14 months.

We did the simple TTG with IGA total and it came back negative. The day the blood was drawn I took my son GF. 64 days later I went to a Pedi GI and we had the entire panel done, only the IGG was positive and gene marker. I was not convienced b/c his IgA levels were very low, what do you know he’s IGA deficient and the lab running the test is key as well as the doctor reading the results.

I took our son to MD to see Dr. Fasano. It was the best thing I did. I knew what I was reading on his blood tests reports. The local GI did not! Of course, Dr. Fasano did.

We did not do the biopsy, no way was I putting him back on gluten to prove something I already knew to be true. Without the biopsy our son is not offically diagnosed and that is good and bad. Good for any insurance issues, bad for later in life if the draft were reinstated or college dorm required him to live there.

I think the way around that is to change doctors and state you have Celiac Disease. What doctor asks for the labs to prove it when you are an adult?

I learned a long time ago that I was the only one incharge of my health for answers and I am the only one who can advocate for my children.

Found your site when looking for some info this morning. I was diagnosed with celiac disease in 1998. GI doc had done a bx and just after an emergency appendectomy came in to proclaim- I found the answer! You have celiac disease. Handed me a piece of paper that said - Eat/Don’t Eat. That was it. That was my patient education. Of course, I learned everything else on my own.

In 2004 I visited a new GI who had me do a gluten challenge because he did the new spiffy blood test and it said I didn’t have celiac disease. So I did the challenge, was sick as hell for the entire month, had another biopsy (His words were- If this biopsy comes back positive for celiac disease, I’ll eat my hat. He happily munched on the brim.)

Two weeks ago, I had colonoscopy and endoscopy done, I’m 50 this year, and want to make sure nothing untoward is going on. I’m sticking to the diet faithfully (finally, took some years to do this). So the GI doc calls (my original GI) and says, “Well, we took multiple biopsies and your gut looks good. I don’t think you have celiac disease.” I just sighed. He gave me the name of a product Digestive Advantage IBS to take for the horrid cramps I get every 7-8 days on “empty the bowel day”. I started that yesterday so I hope it helps.

My question is, isn’t a “healed gut” the goal of being on the GF diet? I mean isn’t that the ENTIRE point of it?? And why wouldn’t the GI know that??

I’m staying GF. I’ve learned enough to know that wheat in the diet of a human is ill-advised PERIOD. But I have to really wonder how much our medical community is aware of exactly what’s going on with celiac disease.

Wow. I was not looking for this but boy am I glad for happy accidents! My son was breast fed until 18 mos and had poop so watery and fierce he blew out every diaper. I was changing him one day and he pooped in the fetal position, with me reaching for a diaper. It shot out like from a fire hose and arched across the room and hit his uncle on the pant leg. We had a good laugh, but I’m thinking, “Is this normal at all…across the room?” He also does have a come and go skin rash that docs never figured out. Skin creams didn’t help. I will look into this and keep reading your posts, thanks!

I think I have this problem but I’m not sure just what foods to avoid. I know all wheat products but how about Oat products… corn products…. eggs and such. Just what can I eat and be gluten free?
Ann

The reason, I would think, that the true ratio of Celiac’s out there is not known is because, to my experience, it messes with the very personality, itself, making one appear “Mentally Retarted,” or “Mentally Ill,” or even “Perverse.”
People DUMP on someone like that. Persecute one, even.
I.E. VERY GOOD undercover investigative and/or espionage material. It’s how I was used in US Army Military Intelligence, and… Well, people say and do things in front of a “Retard” that they wouldn’t say in front of their 3 year old child.
That’s to say, right: Government Agencies don’t want the word out. But they go whole hog to get everyone’s medical records, etc., into their Orwellian computer records because - We Celiacs make such great “Manchurian Candidates” of political influence. I know for a fact just how influenced I can be when symptomatic to suggestion, hypnosis, etc. especially when done in medical settings.
There is a natural tendency for society to abuse and exploit the “Retarded,” no matter what their pronouncements of real insight, etc., so it’s a miserable existence, until you learn to get off gluten.
My STRONG suggestion to you is simple, yet hard work: Get a notebook, draw a line down the middle of the pages, and date each entry: Left side with EVERY SINGLE FOOD, DRINK, LOTION, SOAP, WHATEVER that you have used in specifics, then underline that day. Highlight suspected foods. Gluten is hidden in EVERYTHING, to include packaged foods labeled “Gluten Free,” like from bakeries.
Then, on the right side, list your symptoms for the day. Rash, facial skin flaking, itching, pins and needles feelings (Folic acid and B Vitamins malnurishment) moods (Blood sugar, thyroid, intestional, brain functions) bowel movements (And nature thereof), etc. etc.
I, personally, have found that after eating contaminated foods or drink, my next day reaction is severe facial and scalp flaking and itching, with the second day being an outbreak of Dermititus Hepitaformus on my shins (Kind of a permanent Poison Ivy.) I’ve found that Diaper Rash creme (Zinc) is very good for making it go away quicker, especially if you take vitamin suppliments with zinc, and eat foods (Like meats and pinto beans) with lots of folic acid and fiber in them.
The whole thing varies according to the quantity of gluten I am consuming. It used to drive me so nuts I would drink lots of beer…. Oh, oh, Catch 22!
If you want an adult beverage, stick to Red Bridge Beer (made by Budweiser), rum, wine, potato vodka, or Southern Comfort. Gin is NOT gluten-free. I have read where, after a Celiac attack, a strong shot of alcohol helps to disinfect the insides. I DO know that said beer helps clear things up inside.
Celiacs crave, for some reason, that to which they are most allergenic, like fried foods.
In this manner, I have learned what to AVOID AT ALL COSTS.
Bye, bye, McDonalds, KFC, Deli’s… And because I walk 20 min. each day, I’m getting skinny and fit again.
Think Oats are safe? They might be, but even rice cakes made by Quaker Oats are made in factories where wheat is processed, contaminating the same.
Want fiber? Pinto beans and brown rice are the way to go.
The body gets so allergenic that you’ll at first be Lactose… Everything intolerant, until you get gliadan free for a while. Corn, by the way, is the exact opposite remedy, I have found. If you’re clogged, grab a can of whole corn to get it through.
I think this must be God’s Will.
I now wonder… Was Jesus a Celiac? I think it may be possible.

And forgot to mention: Go on the internet to find herbs and things… Agrimony, marshmallow oil, etc. But Flax oil and Evening Primrose oil tablets are VERY nice, providing the nutrients that are otherwise missing, and lubrication, as well.
And for whatever reason, a daily dose of spinach (Quiche?) makes for a great influx of what you might well need. Celiac’s even affects blood sugar -> vision things.
rickhyatt@hotmail.com

Hi, My son has been having the same symptoms, the diarrhea, very fowl smell, weight has leveled off, even lost a few ounces a few weeks ago. He crys about 75% of the day, the only time he is comfortable enough to sleep is at night for about 6 hours. he’s just miserable. he’s only 16weeks old. He alway’s run’s a temperature of 99.2 - 100. dr’s say it’s just his normal temp…..what!!??
This is my second child, i breastfed her too, and i know what b’fed poop looks like and smells like.
he’s ped. thinks i’m nutty, and making it all up.
last night i just broke out in tears because he was screaming his head off, and for the past 3 days he’s hardly eaten anything. he’s going around 8 hr’s between meals. Iv’e been having to force feed him. I’m taking him straight to the ped. g.i. tomarrow. (mon). After reading this article and a few others in books, i’ve stoped eating wheat starting today. I had to eat a salad for breakfast. i’m determined to make my baby a happy baby. Please pray for my little one. His name is Marty. thanks
lena

i am nearly 65 all my child years i was overweight , would suffer weekly with “hives” and was given sulpher drugs , always feeling no good would loose weight if away from cereals, my mum sister both died bowel cancer mum was always at the doc’s, they never found what was wrong, now my daughter threw breastfeeding had children not well,not growing, so she did elimination to diets her’s are wheat, dairy intolerant so i went on the diet ,you guessed it i am gluton ,dairy intolerant

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